1 00:00:07,257 --> 00:00:12,605 Brothers & Sisters, the following video is part of our ongoing political education process 2 00:00:12,605 --> 00:00:14,977 To insure that you, our member, 3 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,677 have every bit of information you need to make 4 00:00:17,677 --> 00:00:21,686 an informed decision on who you'll support for President of the United States 5 00:00:21,686 --> 00:00:25,173 As your union we're not going to tell you how to vote 6 00:00:25,173 --> 00:00:30,427 But we hope to be a resource to help you make an informed decision on who to support 7 00:00:30,427 --> 00:00:32,328 There are a number of candidates 8 00:00:32,328 --> 00:00:36,138 on both sides of the political aisle running for the highest office in our nation 9 00:00:36,138 --> 00:00:39,615 Our job is to inform you on their positions, 10 00:00:39,615 --> 00:00:43,698 the issues important to our profession and you as firefighters 11 00:00:43,698 --> 00:00:51,363 In the 2008 Presidential race one candidate is running on what he perceives as his 9/11 credentials 12 00:00:51,363 --> 00:00:57,057 Rudy Giuliani has used the horrible events of September the 11th 2001 13 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:59,955 to create a carefully crafted persona 14 00:00:59,955 --> 00:01:06,215 But the fact is, what Rudy portrays is not a full picture of the decisions made that led 15 00:01:06,215 --> 00:01:10,344 in our view, to the unnecessary deaths of our F.D.N.Y members 16 00:01:10,344 --> 00:01:14,356 and the attempt to stop the dignified recovery - of those lost 17 00:01:14,356 --> 00:01:19,217 The urban legend of 'Americas Mayor' needs to be balanced by the truth 18 00:01:19,217 --> 00:01:23,715 The opinions in this video are not about Rudy's record on union issues 19 00:01:23,715 --> 00:01:26,202 as some on his behalf have portrayed 20 00:01:26,202 --> 00:01:31,671 The stories you are about to hear are not being delivered by an arm or extension of any political party 21 00:01:31,671 --> 00:01:36,823 These are the unvarnished stories of firefighters, fire officers 22 00:01:36,823 --> 00:01:43,047 active & retired and the FDNY members who served and sacrificed that horrible day 23 00:01:43,047 --> 00:01:49,081 They paint a picture of Rudy that is remarkably different from the one he has painted for himself 24 00:01:49,081 --> 00:01:56,497 Firefighters, their families and this IAFF have an important story to tell you and it's time to tell it 25 00:02:01,537 --> 00:02:04,692 One of the towers has collapsed I repeat, I one the towers has collapsed 26 00:02:01,537 --> 00:02:14,474 He's running on his '9/11 leadership' and it was lacking and there was none 27 00:02:14,474 --> 00:02:21,230 Whenever I hear him talk I want to scream out to the world and say, 'God he is so full of it!? 28 00:02:21,230 --> 00:02:23,076 Because the buck stops at the Mayors office 29 00:02:23,076 --> 00:02:25,668 It goes up to the top, you know? .. Who's in charge here? 30 00:02:25,668 --> 00:02:26,937 Mr. Giuliani 31 00:02:26,937 --> 00:02:29,132 They attacked us in 93 32 00:02:29,132 --> 00:02:33,262 and yet 8 1/2 years later New York City firefighters, the greatest fire department in the world 33 00:02:33,262 --> 00:02:37,309 we're using the same radios that we knew, didn't work 34 00:02:37,309 --> 00:02:43,663 We have remains of dead heroes out at the garbage dump because of Giuliani and his administration 35 00:02:43,663 --> 00:02:46,283 And they're still there today and they won't remove them 36 00:02:46,283 --> 00:02:48,902 and this guy had politics and his image, 37 00:02:48,902 --> 00:02:53,083 much more important than the needs of firefighters and their families 38 00:02:53,083 --> 00:02:56,630 I'm a conservative, I'm a member of the N.R.A (National Rifle Association) 39 00:02:56,630 --> 00:03:01,221 I voted for Giuliani but in this instance he messed up 40 00:03:01,221 --> 00:03:04,475 It's about learning who the person running for president is, 41 00:03:04,475 --> 00:03:07,601 don't just go by the image you saw on television 42 00:03:07,601 --> 00:03:12,368 He's not the moral, ethical or honest person that I feel should be the President 43 00:03:12,368 --> 00:03:13,895 of the United States in 2008 44 00:03:14,298 --> 00:03:17,728 This image of Rudy Giuliani as 'Americas Mayor' is a myth 45 00:02:01,537 --> 00:03:32,156 Rudy Giuliani's urban legend begins on February 26th, 1993, 46 00:03:32,156 --> 00:03:35,250 when Al-Qaida terrorist bombed the World Trade Center 47 00:03:36,835 --> 00:03:39,935 It looked like a scene from a Hollywood movie, but it was real 48 00:03:39,935 --> 00:03:42,185 Move back sir--over here 49 00:03:42,256 --> 00:03:48,612 And I tried to get on the radio to transmit to the Chief,.. this is very important stuff,.. 50 00:03:48,612 --> 00:03:54,481 I couldn't get out, I couldn't--I'm calling anybody that could hear me, nobody responded 51 00:03:55,911 --> 00:04:03,148 A 1994 report confirmed the radios didn't work and Mayor Giuliani knew it 52 00:04:03,148 --> 00:04:09,283 Yet Rudy and his fire commissioner took 7 long years to replace the defective radios 53 00:04:09,283 --> 00:04:11,733 With new defective radios 54 00:04:11,733 --> 00:04:17,964 This was the first time that I used the new radios that we were issued and it was at a working fire 55 00:04:17,964 --> 00:04:23,539 At some point in the fire the second due engine company who was engine 305 56 00:04:23,539 --> 00:04:29,857 a member on that line was separated from his line and he transmitted a 'mayday message' 57 00:02:01,537 --> 00:04:31,401 for a member lost 58 00:04:31,401 --> 00:04:38,810 Yeah a guy caught in a cellar of a private house and he's calling for help or giving a 'mayday' 59 00:04:38,810 --> 00:04:44,464 and the units that are in the immediate area don't hear him but yet units that are two miles away hear him, 60 00:04:44,464 --> 00:04:46,817 something definitely definitely wrong with that 61 00:04:46,817 --> 00:04:50,795 Rudy's radios were pulled from service within a week 62 00:04:50,795 --> 00:04:54,747 The city comptroller found that proper testing procedures 63 00:04:54,747 --> 00:05:00,327 were never followed and that competitive bidding standards were circumvented with a 'no bid' contract 64 00:05:00,327 --> 00:05:06,334 He ordered them,..bogusly (fraudulently) they were supposed to go out to bid to be tested 65 00:05:06,334 --> 00:05:09,666 by the field units & then they were supposed to give him their input into it 66 00:05:09,666 --> 00:05:12,475 if they think the radio was good they would buy it. He didn't do that 67 00:05:12,475 --> 00:05:15,172 You would have to see how it works in a high rise, how it works in a tenement 68 00:05:15,172 --> 00:05:20,668 how it works in a cellar/subcellar, in tunnels, it would be tested in all these various areas 69 00:05:20,668 --> 00:05:27,513 My estimation of what happened in 2000-2001? None of that went on 70 00:05:27,513 --> 00:05:35,004 At 9:32 a.m. on Sept. 11th, Chief Callan ordered all FDNY members in the north tower to the lobby 71 00:05:35,004 --> 00:05:40,228 He repeated the command but not a single company answered. At 9:59,.. 72 00:05:40,228 --> 00:05:42,198 the south tower collapsed 73 00:05:42,198 --> 00:05:45,065 Chief Brown, Mayday, liberty west of traffic in rubble 74 00:05:45,065 --> 00:05:50,968 FDNY's Chief Pfeifer then repeated the order for all units to evacuate the north tower 75 00:05:50,968 --> 00:05:59,118 Firefighters had 56 minutes after the first call and 29 minutes after the 2nd order to get out 76 00:05:59,118 --> 00:06:05,319 While all police officers left the building, 121 firefighters never made it out 77 00:06:05,319 --> 00:06:10,342 That day my son was working and they didn't hear the call, 78 00:06:10,342 --> 00:06:12,330 121 guys didn't hear the call in the north tower 79 00:06:12,330 --> 00:06:18,756 to get out and the police officers heard because their radios worked and ours didn't 80 00:06:19,554 --> 00:06:26,131 The south tower came down in less than an hour and that was the point when the fire department had to say, 81 00:06:26,131 --> 00:06:27,544 'hey, it's time to get out.' 82 00:06:27,544 --> 00:06:31,083 There are 29 more minutes to get out of the north tower,.. 83 00:06:31,083 --> 00:06:35,728 we lost those people for what reason? Because of lack of communication 84 00:06:35,728 --> 00:06:37,936 Not a single cop was lost in that building,.. 85 00:06:37,936 --> 00:06:38,706 why was that? 86 00:06:40,741 --> 00:06:44,950 Because they had gotten a warning to get out. Our radios weren't working 87 00:06:44,950 --> 00:06:51,696 Virtually the whole thing goes back to him with the radios 88 00:06:51,696 --> 00:06:54,622 He's the guy on the top and he's the guy to yell at 89 00:06:54,622 --> 00:06:58,376 he takes the hit and my son is dead because of it 90 00:06:58,376 --> 00:07:01,291 That's what firefighters should remember about Rudy Giuliani 91 00:07:01,291 --> 00:07:04,997 he gave us nothing when we needed a life saving radio 92 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:08,138 Rather than take responsibility 93 00:07:08,138 --> 00:07:10,584 Giuliani tried to blame the victims 94 00:07:10,584 --> 00:07:17,285 telling the 9/11 commission that firefighters heard their evacuation orders but disobeyed them 95 00:07:17,285 --> 00:07:21,191 Their willingness, the way I describe it, to stand their ground 96 00:07:21,191 --> 00:07:25,720 I find that despicable, my son was a marine 97 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,446 If he had heard the order to evacuate 98 00:07:29,446 --> 00:07:32,412 which he did not because the radios weren't working 99 00:07:32,412 --> 00:07:36,735 if he had heard the order to evacuate he would have evacuated 100 00:07:36,735 --> 00:07:41,610 That is the most ludicrous statement that I've heard made by some people 101 00:07:41,610 --> 00:07:48,296 that the firefighters disagreed with or ignored the command 102 00:07:48,296 --> 00:07:55,662 Mayor Giuliani twisted the heroism of my brother to suit his own mistakes of that day 103 00:07:55,662 --> 00:08:00,825 The Mayor, who is claiming to run on 9/11, built his OEM center, 104 00:08:00,825 --> 00:08:02,203 his communications center, 105 00:08:02,203 --> 00:08:06,784 the basis for all decisions to be made, on the site of the world trade center 106 00:08:06,784 --> 00:08:09,256 that been attacked just 8 years earlier 107 00:08:09,623 --> 00:08:14,212 I mean he's the one that made the decision to put their bunker in 7 World Trade Center 108 00:08:14,212 --> 00:08:16,918 which when I was down there on 9/11 that day 109 00:08:16,918 --> 00:08:19,851 I've seen police detectives yelling in the streets that, 110 00:08:19,851 --> 00:08:22,383 'we told him not to put it here', ya know? 111 00:08:22,383 --> 00:08:24,907 Because that was the target of the terrorists 112 00:08:29,851 --> 00:08:33,373 7 World Trade Center collapsed at 5:00 that night 113 00:08:33,373 --> 00:08:36,885 and the emergency command center was never used that day 114 00:08:36,885 --> 00:08:39,880 Mayor Giuliani was running in the street 115 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,986 and he was talking to the media 116 00:08:41,986 --> 00:08:45,890 instead of being in a controlled environment making controlled decisions 117 00:08:48,276 --> 00:08:49,796 Here was the leader of the city, 118 00:08:49,796 --> 00:08:51,947 running - away from the scene! 119 00:08:51,947 --> 00:08:54,185 Leaving the uniformed person off 120 00:08:54,185 --> 00:08:55,308 and fire(men) and police 121 00:08:55,308 --> 00:08:59,102 to deal with this tragic situation that was occurring 122 00:09:01,622 --> 00:09:07,207 Firefighters began the difficult task of respectfully recovering the remains of civilians 123 00:09:07,207 --> 00:09:08,453 and their fallen brothers 124 00:09:08,453 --> 00:09:13,835 But then gold - belonging to the bank of Nova Scotia was found and removed 125 00:09:13,835 --> 00:09:18,252 'the Brinks truck spotted at the site - is that the 200 million dollars in gold? 126 00:09:18,252 --> 00:09:21,954 Yes it is. He heh heh, I think we have most of it I'm not sure if we have all of it 127 00:09:21,954 --> 00:09:25,364 Within hours within announcing that the gold had been recovered 128 00:09:25,364 --> 00:09:28,314 Rudy pulled FDNY members off the pile 129 00:09:28,314 --> 00:09:31,069 claiming he was worried about their safety 130 00:09:31,069 --> 00:09:33,135 They found the gold and all of a sudden 131 00:09:33,135 --> 00:09:34,793 everything changed for Rudy Giuliani 132 00:09:34,793 --> 00:09:39,252 Things didn't change for firefighters but they changed for Rudy Giuliani and he said 133 00:09:39,252 --> 00:09:41,664 "Don't worry, firefighters will believe whatever I tell them" 134 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:42,987 "It's about your safety"",.. 135 00:09:42,987 --> 00:09:45,177 We knew it wasn't and we knew it was a lie 136 00:09:45,177 --> 00:09:49,273 Once the gold was found, they didn't really care about our members(ship), you know that 137 00:09:49,273 --> 00:09:53,975 you know that they were going to take our dead members and put them in the Staten Island dump 138 00:09:53,975 --> 00:09:55,647 it was a disgrace, it really was 139 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:00,895 When Rudy started his 'scoop and dump' operation 140 00:10:00,895 --> 00:10:04,892 just 101 FDNY members had been recovered 141 00:10:04,892 --> 00:10:12,941 242 FDNY members and hundreds of civilians would either stay buried at ground zero 142 00:10:12,941 --> 00:10:17,929 or be removed like garbage and deposited at the 'Fresh Kills' land fill 143 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:21,042 Scoop up the debris, dump it in a landfill 144 00:10:21,042 --> 00:10:23,847 To heck with the fact that it was firefighters 145 00:10:23,847 --> 00:10:26,981 or others who would never have a funeral for their family 146 00:10:26,981 --> 00:10:32,485 Families and off-duty firefighters protested Rudy's appalling lack of respect 147 00:10:32,485 --> 00:10:36,401 In response, Giuliani had them arrested 148 00:10:36,401 --> 00:10:38,692 When faced with the public outrage 149 00:10:38,692 --> 00:10:44,375 Mayor Giuliani relented and let FDNY members go back to work on the pile 150 00:10:45,638 --> 00:10:47,859 I lost my son, he was in the Marriot 151 00:10:47,859 --> 00:10:50,370 he was lost when the south tower came down 152 00:10:50,370 --> 00:10:56,805 We found my son on March 25th, 2002 and if Giuliani had his way 153 00:10:56,805 --> 00:10:59,205 my sons body would have never been recovered 154 00:10:59,205 --> 00:11:01,011 because he would have closed the site in November 155 00:11:01,011 --> 00:11:06,613 Because of money and politics and he wanted the firemen out of there so they could speed up the operation 156 00:11:10,422 --> 00:11:15,244 Remains were found and it was a real relief to find those who are 157 00:11:15,244 --> 00:11:21,049 to know that he wasn't left down there and that he did come home to rest 158 00:11:21,049 --> 00:11:25,199 We have no idea how he died in the towers, 159 00:11:25,199 --> 00:11:29,331 we haven't recovered his remains so we don't have any information 160 00:11:32,915 --> 00:11:35,654 Today,.. we still continue to find remains 161 00:11:39,334 --> 00:11:41,646 We did need radios that worked and didn't have them, 162 00:11:41,646 --> 00:11:44,387 we did need proper respiratory protection and he didn't give it to us 163 00:11:44,387 --> 00:11:46,805 The things that we needed to do our job 164 00:11:46,805 --> 00:11:50,080 even better we didn't have because of his administration 165 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,069 So ultimately the Mayor of New York at the time, 166 00:11:53,069 --> 00:11:56,531 Mr. Giuliani - he has to bare (lay claim to) these responsibilities 167 00:11:56,531 --> 00:11:59,350 And I blame Giuliani, he was the leader that day 168 00:11:59,350 --> 00:12:01,438 and he was the leader for 8 years leading up to that 169 00:12:01,438 --> 00:12:05,534 I wish I could put him on the stand where he'd have to put his hand on the Bible 170 00:12:05,534 --> 00:12:07,523 and swear to tell the truth 171 00:12:07,523 --> 00:12:12,006 He's not a leader, he's running on 9/11 and it's all a falacy 172 00:12:12,006 --> 00:12:17,028 That's what this is all about, it;s the truth of what he did 173 00:12:17,028 --> 00:12:18,501 And he's making millions, 174 00:12:18,501 --> 00:12:22,621 tens of millions of dollars on the backs of my members as far as I'm concerned 175 00:12:22,621 --> 00:12:25,870 If you are looking for an effective leader to take this country further, 176 00:12:25,870 --> 00:12:28,338 Rudy Giuliani is not to be your choice 177 00:12:28,416 --> 00:12:31,848 On the heroic memory of 343 dead firefighters 178 00:12:31,848 --> 00:12:36,355 he wants to run for President of the United States?! It's a disgrace!